Longcase [Grandfather] Clock – Taking it away for a service, starring Martin Heath Sept 2007. disassembly of the crown.
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Longcase [Grandfather] Clock – Taking it away for a service, starring Martin Heath Sept 2007. disassembly of the crown.
Duration : 0:3:43
February 8th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
No problems, best …
No problems, best of luck whatever you do!
February 8th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
thankyou, that is …
thankyou, that is both logical and very helpful, i doubt however i’d be fortunate enough to find another clock like mine for £10 in any condition, although 100% profit minumum does have an appeal it doesn’t amount to very much. Perhaps i should just keep it as it is, then i could always sell it down the line or still have the option of having it fixed if i were in a financial position to justify it. Thank-you again it’s very kind of you to respond to all my messages, it’s been most helpful.
February 8th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
Its all to do with …
Its all to do with where you buy or sell a clock, if you go into a car boot sale, sure, you’ll see any amount of chimers for £10 in unknown condition, go into an antique shop and a well restored one could cost you £150-250, put it this way if you slap it on e bay and get £20 for it thats 100% profit, and then start again with a different clock ….if you pay £175 you’ll never make 100% profit. reasonable approach?
February 8th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
Well it only cost …
Well it only cost me £10 but to get it fully fuctional will cost £175 So essentially it will be a £185 costing clock. My main concern is that it’s not worth £185 because i don’t know whether i could sell it for that. As ive’d said my knowledge on this topic is less than laverage. As long as it’s worth more than £185 i’m happy to go and get it fixed, the trouble is i just don’t know.
February 8th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
If you don’t have a …
If you don’t have a particular attachment to it then yes the economics of it is questionable especially if you bought it recently on the grounds it was going . At the end of the day beware of quarter chiming clocks if speculating on them, it can be very hard to turn a profit and some of them simply didn’t have the quality of materials to deliver long term reliability iv’e seen some with pinions worn after only 70 years running. I generally only take them on if owned by an existing customer.
February 8th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
Thank you for your …
Thank you for your reply, i think i shall have to find out how much it would b worth selling if fully working and then see if it is worth paying for it to be repaired.
February 8th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
Hi there, As there …
Hi there, As there are 3 sets of wheels in the clock ( time, strike and chime ) there are quite a lot of parts and correct servicing of the clock (assuming they dismantle it fully to polish the pivots and bushings etc) is a a time consuming exercise, in that sense 175 isn’t that much to ask, if the clock is of sentimental value then it is obvoiusly a personal choice but bear in mind a modern German clock is going to cost in excess of this anyway so yeah i’d say go for it.
February 8th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
i have a Napolean …
i have a Napolean Mantle clock by Kienzle, it no longer strikes the hour but the Westminster chimes fine it is also very slow. I know very little about clocks but what i’ve seen i’d date it no later than the1930’s, to have it repaired and serviced will cost me somewhere in the region of £175, i have no idea what the value of this clock is though could you offer any assistance?
February 8th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
Thanks for the …
Thanks for the reply, seemingly its not unusual for the moon and date mechanisms to be disabled on old clocks, I’m sure there is a good reason why. It seems a pity as it is a lovely function of the clock. Can the date – moon be fixed?
February 8th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
Roberts of Ruabon. …
Roberts of Ruabon. some time about 1780s. The Moon and Date movement doesnt go round.
Very sorry, of course, we should have made a video of the clock being put back up. it has been in place since Feb 2008. Perhaps I should do one of it being wound, just to complete the series.
February 8th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
That is a lovely …
That is a lovely clock is there a makers name on it? I am very interested in antique clocks.
February 8th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
Ahh did you not …
Ahh did you not have the balls to actually reply, just slip in a new comment so you’d have the last word, well aren’t you the pompous little ass? ” you are now dismissed” LOL talk about having notions of yourself!! I restore some of the finest clocks in Europe which are shipped to my workshop from national museums and private collections, my work speaks for itself. Next time you look at an english escape wheel check the tips for bending and chips and ask yourself how that happens? what a fool.
February 8th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
I said “lack of …
I said “lack of banking pins” I didn’t say it should have banking pins, I said they don’t have banking pins and this combined with rough handling by people in the past, clocks falling over and other similiar problems can damage individual teeth which will always be weaker. Feel free to display your bad habits in public, i will continue to run my business restoring clocks to the highest standards possible. You seem to be more interested in slagging me off than doing things right, well carry on.
February 8th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
Well , im sure that …
Well , im sure that all who have seen your posts here are stunned by the knowledge and experise you have. But ive restored hundreds of these english bell movements…and have never worried about the order in which the parts are removed from the case. Furthermore the presence of banking pins on this type movement would be the exception , not the rule! I await your reply ….because you cant help but try to be more clever and knowing as all others….typical clockman……!!!
February 8th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
You’d be surprised …
You’d be surprised how easily they are damaged! usually due to contributing factors such as the pallets being resurfaced with springsteel which is left burred, teeth that have been damaged before by mishandling, lack of banking pins, or even just poor casting of the brass in the manufacture, it is a good idea to treat them with the same respect as a vienna regulator, I restore one every 3 weeks and the amount of time I spend undoing other peoples botching is truely unbelieveable.
February 8th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
It would be very …
It would be very difficult to damage the escape wheel of an english bell movement. They are far from being delicate. Your rule of taking the pendulum off first however, is warranted.
February 8th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
You can tell the ” …
You can tell the “clock expert” that the pendulum ALWAYS comes off first before the weights and always goes on after the weights are rehung. This avoids potential damage to the escape wheel. My family have been restoring clocks since 1956.
February 8th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
We are having the …
We are having the window in the room enlarged (not enough daylight from the south direction) so it would be wrong to reinstal the clock and then have builders dust from the window work. Its being stored by Martin, the clock man a bit longer.
February 8th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
let us know when …
let us know when the clock is back. the moon phase part of the movement had problems?
February 8th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
really nice to know …
really nice to know that the clock has been an antique for a long time. it’s getting really hard to find clocks that old.
February 8th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
Yes. from Ruabon in …
Yes. from Ruabon in Wales… its still away.. the whole clock. the works are being cleaned, and the wood part is being worked over by a specialist too..
February 8th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
that is a welsh …
that is a welsh clock?
February 8th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
The problem is that …
The problem is that the dust becomes a sort of grinding paste if you just oil the mechanism without fully cleaning it. Its worked for over 200 years, but we have no memory of when it was last fully serviced. We will leave a laminated card stuck to the inside with this year’s date so that people will know in 50yrs time if its due for another service.
February 8th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
Great clock. Did he …
Great clock. Did he fix it yet? What did the clock need, i’m assuming just a good cleaning and oil. I’m hoping to find my own like this someday.
February 8th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
I chose it because …
I chose it because the music is 18th century, and so is the Clock. although i have it still in iMovie, it doesnt tell the name (from my itunes library) so i am ashamed to say, i cant re-identify it. Vivaldi perhaps.